TSR论坛上有这样一个帖子“Cambridge Rejects 2019 entry”,里面几乎都是申请19年入学剑桥被拒的童鞋们。
从去年底开始,这个帖子就断断续续地有人留言,他们有的根本没想到会在面试前就收到拒信,有的为一门考试而懊悔万分,有的因为成绩不佳而崩溃。
我想,无论是来自剑桥,还是任何一个学校的拒信,同学们的心情一定是类似的。
你一定能懂他们,对吗?
楼主:Let's get this going, shallwe?
Got rejected from Christ's for Chemical Engineering via Engineering without an interview. Sat the ENGAA, didn't pass itwith flying colours, but I didn't think about it too much since from what I'veread it was meant to be extremely difficult so I thought I was OK.
When I first read the email I was shocked,but I'll be back to normal in a week probably. (*EDIT* looks like it may be acouple of hours lol)
让我们一起来聊聊吧。我申请剑桥大学基督学院的化学工程,被拒了,连面试都没拿到。在参加工程入学测试时,我虽然发挥得不是很好,但我并不怎么担心,因为从我知道那本来就会很难。对于申请剑桥,我心里还是有点把握的。
所以当我看到拒信时,我很惊讶,怎么会被拒呢?估计要一周后我才能缓过来。(也可能是几个小时,哈哈)
SexyNerd回复楼主:I’m sorry to hear that. Had you sat an entrance exam? What were your predicted grades?
为你感到难过,不过你已经参加入学测试了吗?预估成绩是多少?
楼主回复:I was predicted A*A*A (Maths/Physics/Chemistry) and I sat the ENGAA.I personally didn't think that I went well in the exam, but as I read hownearly everyone struggled with it, and how if you get above average you are suddenly a good applicant, I didn't think much about it.
我参加了工程入学测试,成绩大概是AAA数学、物理、化学。我感觉自己考得并不好,但是当我知道几乎每个人都感觉成绩不怎么样时,我就没那么担心啦。
Rohan:This is one of the big lies that is almost always spread after a university entrance exam on the student room.
People always keep telling "Oh! Its just one part of the application process, sodon't stress about too much or Oxbridge look at an applicant holistically blah blahblah".
While these are all true,the reality is that nowadays almost everyone applying has extremely good predictions and grades, and therefore to really be able to get above the competition you need to be able to shine in places like the interview and the admissions tests.
And even admissions tutors often cite the reason for a lot ofstudents getting rejected is because they "did not prepare enough forthere admissions tests".
While I appreciate the spirit of optimistic people on this site that give everyone hope, the sad truth is that the competition is too intense to take an admissions test lightly or "not worry about it" hoping your GCSE's or predictions can save you.
For anyone reading this post, before interviews or before applying, please put effort into preparing yourself as well as you can for the interviews or admissions test bydoing extra reading, trying to practice mock interviews (with friends, teachers anyone really)
P.S For anyone wondering why I suddenly hijacked this thread with this mini-rant, its because I am an Oxford maths reject and have gone through this process twice, and see the same story being repeated every year. My advice would be, don't stress about the application process but at the same time don't take any part of the process lightly.
这简直就是贴吧里最盛行的一个谎言了,总是有人说些“没事的,那只是申请过程的一个步骤而已,不用太担心”或者“牛津才把这个测试看的很重”之类的话。
虽然这些都不假,但事实是现在几乎每个申请的学生都有很好的成绩、表现,因此如果你想在竞争激烈的申请中脱颖而出,你就应该在入学考试和面试中脱颖而出。有的招生官就经常表示有的学生被拒就是因为“没有在入学测试中准备好”。
虽然我觉得大家这种积极的心态会给不少人带来希望,但现实是残酷的,牛剑的申请竞争不是一般的激烈,所以你根本不能指望你的GCSE成绩能够助你一臂之力,你也根本不应该轻视入学测试。
我希望看到这些文字的同学们,一定要好好地准备面试和入学测试,做些额外的阅读,试着和朋友或者老师模拟面试。
PS:我知道一定有人好奇为什么我这么激动,因为我申请牛津数学,2次都被拒了,每年都是同样的事情发生!
最后我给大家的建议是:不要太紧张申请过程,但也不要轻视任何一个环节。
Compscicat:Yeah I'm really surprised by some of the pre-interview rejections this year... maybe because the admissions assessments aren't that new anymore they are taken more seriously than the last years?
同感,我也很惊讶,今年居然在面试前收到了一些拒信…..也许是因为入学评估没有那么新了,他们比过去几年更认真了?
Russianquestion:It could possibly be down to no Further Mathematics at AS/A Level.
Perhaps this, in conjunction with a weaker performance on the maths side of the ENGAA, may have shown that your maths skills aren't strong enough. How do youfeel that side of the test went?
Doonesbury回复楼上:That would be my initial thinking too.
是不是因为你没有没有AS/A level的高等数学的成绩?因为这一点,再加上你在工程入学测试中较差的表现,招生官可能认为你的数学能力还不够强。你觉得呢?
我开始也是这样认为的。
Mathslove回复Russianquestion:Keep practicing your convoluted language, you doing fine
Russianquestion:What do you mean?
Mathslove:Past your message in a grammar checker lol
That’sgreat:Conjunction isn’t “convoluted”.
In fact, you have made a mistake inyour first comment and then made a second comment that doesn’t make any grammatical sense, which is ironic considering you’retalking of a grammar checker.
继续练习你那晦涩难懂的语言吧,你已经做得很好了
好好检查下你的语法吧,hhh
他用词并不晦涩好吗?反而,是你自己两条评论有语法问题。
楼主 回复Russianquestion: I felt fine with the maths stuff, problem is that the paper was heavier on the physics side than the maths side (in comparison to the previous papers at least).
Really the issue was the time pressure, I'm planning ongiving myself 2-4 hours alone to resit the 2 papers and see what I get, not the 2 hours we were given.
And yeah, I didn't do AS Further Maths,because it wasn't offered at my school
我觉得我挺擅长数学的,问题是这次物理方面的paper比数学多(至少和以前的paper比,是这样的)。而且真正的困难是时间压力,我计划的是花2-4个小时来重新看这2份paper,但是规定的时间只有2小时。
我确实没有选高等数学,那是因为我的学校没有这门课
Mellownite:I was just rejected by Churchill before an interview and I'm really sad.I had applied for computer science 75% and there were no exams that needed to be sat or work that needed to be sent off.
So they based their decision entirely on my predicted grades, personal statement and teacher references. Iwas predicted a Distinction* in IT, A* in maths, A in physics and A in AS further maths.
So I think that either they didn't like that I was taking further maths as an As only or they didn't like something on my personal statement.
Either way I'm really disappointed in myself.I had tried my hardest but it wasn't enough.
Fortunately, I have offers from both Bristol and Bath andI'm waiting on Warwick but Cambridge had been my top choice.
I'm writing this without having told anyone about the decision and I'm dreading having to tellmy family that I've been rejected.
In the email they sent they said that theysend out invites to the top 2/3 of applicants or top 3/4 of applicants and that makes me even more upset since obviously I wasn't strong enough to even be in the top 2/3.
I'm hoping warwick will bring better news but I'm going to be downfor a while and surrounded by people who had high hopes for me.
More than anything,I think I'm most affected by the fact that a lot of people strongly believed inme and that I've let them all down before I even got an interview...
我刚刚收到Churchill学院的拒信,我很难过。我申请了他们的计算机科学,这个专业没有入学考试,也不需要作品集。所以学校那边完全看我的预估成绩、PS和老师推荐信来录取。
我的预估成绩分别是IT优秀,数学A,物理A,AS高等数学A。这样都被拒了,所以我想他们要么是不满意我的高等数学只有A,要么就是我的PS出了些问题。不管怎样,我现在对自己失望极了。明明已经尽了最大的努力,可是最后还是如此。
唯一感到幸运的就是我拿到了布里斯托和巴斯的offer,华威的还在等待中。在打下这些字时,我还没有告诉任何人被拒的事,我不敢跟家里人说。
在邮件里,他们(剑桥招生官)这样说,排名前2/3或者前3/4的申请者有机会获得offer。我连前2/3都进不了,这简直令人太沮丧了!
希望华威能够给我一点好消息,不然我接下来我会难受好一段时间。
我不知道该怎么面对我的家人朋友,他们对我很有信心,然而我却连面试都没有拿到,太让他们失望了….
letterBee: Be proud of yourself. You should never regret about your application.
If Cambridge doesn't take you in, it just means you belong to somewhere else.
对自己自信点,永远也不要质疑自己申请剑桥这件事,他没有录取你,只是说明你属于别的地方而已。
Janeiswho回复楼上:As a parent, I should tell you that don't worry.
Parents do have high expectation to their kids, from ourside, this hope is somehow likes an encourage.
If kids did not meet theexpectation, the only thing we want to tell them is: Keep going! Life is a long journey, keep going and grit are more important than run fast.
Sorry, Englishis my second language, I hope you can understand me.
Remember, you are alwaysthe best kid of your parents, whatever you are accepted by Cambridge or not.
作为一个父母,我应该告诉你的是,你真的不用担心,父母对孩子们有很高的期望是人之常情,在我们看来,这也是一种对你们的鼓舞。
如果孩子没有达到我们的期望,我们只会去鼓励ta,人生还很漫长呢,坚持下去,有时候勇气比速度更重要。
抱歉,英语不是我的母语,希望你能看得懂我说的话。最后,希望你能记住,无论你是否被剑桥大学录取,你永远都是你父母最好的孩子。
Jaguargirl:Can't comment on the selection criteria for CS, but can tell youthis as a parent...
any young person putting themselves forward for this type ofselection process is an absolute star, with the potential for world-beating greatness.
This time, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. It doesn'tmatter. You will progress to your chosen goal by another route.
Furthermore,those you love you will celebrate your academic ability, tenacity and perseverance. You have let no-one down, no way. Please let us know how Warwick goes
我无法评论你那个专业的选择标准,但是同样作为父母,我想说的是,任何一个不畏这样激烈竞争的年轻人都是优秀的,你们身上有超越世界的潜力。虽然这一次没有成功,没有关系,你一定能通过其他的方法达成目标的。
你没有让任何人失望,你的家人们一定会为你的专业能力、你的坚韧和毅力所自豪的。期待你的华威offer。
Doonesbury: Absolutely loving all the parental support in this thread
这个贴吧里来自父母的关爱、支持太暖心了!
Computeryboi: Got rejected from Churchill for Computer Science without interview today -
I decided Cambridge wasn't for me about a week earlier so I'm feeling relieved I don't have to go through the whole process considering I don'treally want to go. Rejection isn't always bad guys!
+1,今天收到了Churchill的拒信,不过由于一周前我忽然觉得剑桥并不适合我,所以我并没有很难过,反而为不用参与整个申请过程而感到如释重负。哈,看来拒信不总是坏事嘛。
Imayooshi: Got rejected yesterday by King's for ASNC. Ichecked Track today and it still shows that Cam is still considering my application but there's no mention of pooling in the email sent from King's :
In any case I have offers from UCL and KCL already so there's nothing much for me to worry about
Dooonesbury回复楼上:It will take a while for Track to update - and unfortunately pooling isn't an option atthis stage. You can only be pooled after having an interview.
昨天被国王学院拒绝了,但是今天我检查Track时,它仍然显示剑桥大学正在审核我的申请。无所谓啦,反正我已经拿到UCL和KCL的offer啦,不需要为别的事担心了~
Track更新需要一段时间——并且不幸的是,你还有需要参加面试,只有面试过后才能被录取。
Cat: I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get rejected from Cambridge Selwyn as Icompletely messed up on my Bmat exam , got 4.9 , 4.9 and 2A .
Tbf I regretted applying there even before getting my BMAT results back , I wish I had applied to Cardiff instead !!
我非常确定我会被塞尔文学院拒绝,因为我完全搞砸了我的Bmat exam,只拿到了4.9,4.9和2A。讲真的,我真后悔申请了剑桥,我多么希望我申请的是卡迪夫!
Lostintwilight:Has anyone got reject from Homerton?
Roylight:Still waiting for good news
楼主:They said that they would post their rejection on UCAS by the end of the week, yet here we are Sunday night and nothing yet
有人收到哈默顿学院的拒信吗?
没有,但是我还在等消息,希望能录取
他们说这周末之前会在UCAS发布拒信,但我们等到周日晚上也没消息。
Flowershoob:Selwyn NatSci reject here...it hurts really bad. With 45 predicted(IB) and a PS i've been working on for months,i just don't get it.
Yes my NSAA wasn't the best but I thought i could make it up with a good interview since I'm better at talking. Now they don't even give me the chance to prove myself.
I just wanted to get to the interview stage, and from then feel free to reject me.
But like this, it's just so embarrassing, and i can't even feel sorry for myself because all i feel is shame.
这里有一封塞尔文学院的拒信….真心让人崩溃好吗….我的预估成绩很不错,而且我花了几个月的时间来写我的PS,最后居然被拒。虽然我的NSAA不是最好的,但我认为可以用一个优秀的面试来补偿(我很擅长聊天)。
但是他们连一个让我证明自己的机会都不给我,如果我进入了面试这一关,就算最后结果不好也没关系,至少我有有这个机会。而不是现在这样,给我挫败感,让我感到羞愧。
Anonymous回复楼上:Someone predicted grades thathigh with a probably amazing personal statement shouldn't feel shame, it just means Cambridge was never meant for you because you were meant for a different top uni.
Seems like their loss
嘿,你有那么高的预估成绩、我猜应该很amazing的PS,就算被拒也不应该感到羞愧,这只代表了你不属于剑桥,你将会去另一所高等学府。我认为是他们的损失喔。
Sasha同回复楼上:I completely relate to howyou're feeling (I'm also nat sci) - I also feel embarrassed because everyone around me at school is getting interviews and having interview preparation and I feel useless.
I also was desperate for the chance to prove myself after my awful test.
Do you have any idea what sort of pass mark the NSAA might have had? Also do you think you will reapply next year?
我非常理解你的感受,我身边的人都在准备面试,而我却连面试都没拿到,真是很令人尴尬。我也是因为没有考好,所以迫切地希望可以在面试中证明自己….你知道NSAA有及格分数之类的吗?你明年还会申请吗?
Flowershoop回复sasha的评论:I don't think there is a pass rate, 50% is usually the average.
They might have gotten more confident in using the admission test than the years before because I guess now they start to see the correlation between performance at the NSAA and performance at Cambridge.
But that's just speculation.No way I'm reapplying, I've repeated a year in high school already, so I feel old (will be starting uni at 19).
Plus, Idon't think I could take another year of self-doubt, insecurity and mental break downs. I might try for masters. For now, my goal is St Andrews.
我不觉得有及格分数、通过率这种东西,50%通常是平均水平。相比前几年,他们可能更愿意推行入学考试,我猜原因是他们看到了学生在NSAA和剑桥的表现之间的相关性。
关于重新申请剑桥,是不可能了,因为我已经在高中复读一年了,今年我19岁了,这个年纪都该是大二了。并且,我觉得自己可能无法再承受一年的自我怀疑、缺乏安全感、崩溃的状态了。
以后我可能会考硕士,目前的目标是圣安德鲁斯。
Sasha:I just joined this website just for this thread because I'm desperate to talk to people who can relate to the pain lol I study maths, further maths, physics and chem.
Anyway, I was rejected last week from Jesus to read physical nat sci. Thereason is obvious - my utter failure in the entrance test.
The rest of myapplication is strong - I got 12 A*s at GCSE and I was predicted A*A*AA (Ididn't do any AS exams). I have had offers from Edinburgh for physics and UCLfor nat sci, which shows that my application and personal statement are good enough.
And after the test I could feel I had done crap, but I didn't think it could bethis bad so I'm really distraught right now that I didn't even get a chance toprove myself.
I know for sure I could've done infinitely better as my schoolgave us a mock entrance exam and I scored about 10% above the average without much work, and since then I had done a lot more work for it, so I expected toat least do the same.
But yeah, it was a total blowout - section 1 was harder than all the other past papers (that's how I felt anyway) which threw me forthe rest of the paper and I completely fell apart and panicked.
Cambridge is my dream for many reasons which I won't bother going into but trust me when I say I have considered alternatives but Cambridge is really where I want to be and I know I can be happy there, pressure and all, so I definitely want to reapply next year.
I guess this rejection doesn't prove I'm not right for the university like it would suggest had I been rejected post-interview, it's literally me being dumband messing up my biggest test since GCSEs because I panicked and I don't know which rejection would hurt more tbh.
Does anyone have any advice or anything? IfI got 3 or 4 A*s do you think it would be worth my time to reapply?
我才加入这个贴吧,是因为我太想和能理解相同痛苦的人交流了。我学了数学、高等数学、物理和化学,上周申请物理科学,被耶稣学院拒绝了。原因很明显——我的入学测试考的太失败了。但我其他的部分都还行——我在GCSE拿到了12个A,预估成绩是A,A,AA(我没有参加任何AS考试)。
我已经收到了爱丁堡的物理专业offer,和UCL的自然科学offer,这说明我的申请和PS已经很好了。
入学测试结束后,我就有不祥的预感,但是我没想到有这么差。和你们一样,因为没有机会证明自己,我现在觉得心烦意乱。我觉得我是可以的,之前我们学校让我们做了一个模拟入学测试,我没费多少力气就拿到比平时高10%的成绩。之后我更加努力了,不应该是这样的结果。
第一部分的paper比其他所有的paper都要难,至少我是这么觉得的,我不得不转头去看其他paper,当时我的心里就已经崩溃、慌张了。
我考虑过其他学校,但是剑桥大学是我梦想的学校,我真的很想去那,就算有很多压力,但是我知道我在那会开心。这次被拒并不能证明我不适合它,这完全是我自己的错,我把自GCSE以来最大的一次考试弄砸了。
你们有什么建议吗?如果我得了3个或4个A,你们觉得重新申请剑桥值得吗?
Charles回复楼上:Wow it's like someone else is reading out what happened to me, I too was rejected prior to interview forphysical Natsci, at Fitzwilliam, we take the exact same subjects and havealmost the exact same predicted grades (A*A*A*A)!
I know myself that it was the admissions test that let me down, the timing were so tight and although I knowI can do the questions, under the pressure I fell apart
Although going to Cambridge has been mylife long goal and my main source of motivation to push myself in my studies,unlike you I won't be waiting a year to re-apply.
I don't think it's personally worth grinding through another year of studies just to have that specific nameon my certificate, when the course is standardized across all reputable unis Ican't justify it, I think I'm going to accept an undergrad degree at UCL forNatsci
and then look into doing my postgrad somewhere else like Imperial,Oxford or Cambridge.
But best of luck to you if you do decide to reapply. I hope the best for you and remember, you're not alone
Wow,就好像有人在写我自己经历的故事一样——我也被被拒了,是菲茨威廉学院。和你完全相同的专业,几乎完全相同的预估成绩!我也对我的入学测试很失望,时间太紧了,巨大的压力下我连原本能做好的题都没完成。
尽管我和你一样,一直以来追求的就是能够去剑桥大学,是这个目标一直支撑我努力学习,但是我不会像你一样再等一年重新申请了。在我自己看来,为了获得毕业证书上那个剑桥大学的名字,而再花上一年时间,是不值得的。毕竟现在课程都已经标准化了,同一个专业在剑桥或者其他大学都是所差无几的。我可能会在UCL读本科,然后再考去帝国理工、牛津或者剑桥读研究生。
如果你最后决定要重新申请的话,希望你能成功。记住,你并不孤单。
Cgugar:Rejected on 22/11 for history and Pembroke. I’m a so sad but I’m trying to just prove Cambridge wrong
11月22号收到的彭布罗克学院拒信,难过死了,但我要证明剑桥大学的选择是错的!
Xiaochen:Save a spot for me T_TDoesn't feel any better if I'm rejected asecond time
给自己占个位T_T第二次被拒的滋味可一点不好受
Jackfu:Rejected by Corups Christi for economics. Predicted A*A*AA with an additional A in EPQ (achieved after application).
Anonymous:Wait how did you already find out
Jackfu: I am a retard who has been rejected pre-interview.
Anonymous:Oh, did they say why?
Jackfu:Not yet, I requested feedback a while ago but they told me to wait until mid Jan. I suppose it is the fact that I self learned AS FM and not doing the qualification.
But maybe the admission test; I hope this is an experience that I can learn from and improve on. Good luck to your application.
申请圣体学院的经济专业,被拒~预估成绩是A,A,AA,而且还有额外的EPQ的A(A-Level课程以外的独立研究项目),不过是申请后才得到的
等等,你怎么已经知道结果了?
其实我早就被拒了,没能进面试。
噢,他们说原因了吗?
还没有,不久前我向学校寻求了反馈,但他们说要等到1月中旬才能有结果。我猜可能是因为我学了AS FM,但是没拿到资格证。不过也可能是因为入学测试啦。问清楚是因为希望自己可以从中吸取点教训,以后改进。祝你好运。
Heneng:Will reserve my place here as well. Gutted as hell though
给自己留个位置,等待太煎熬了。
Tfisher:Since I haven’t seen any Queens’ rejects here, got rejected a coupleof weeks ago pre-interview for Engineering.
Definetely if anything screwed meover it was the entrance exam, my predictions are A*A*A*A for Maths, Physics,Further Maths and Compsci and I feel my personal statement was really good, but I wanted to answer every question on the ENGAA,so I rushed it and really botched it…
I’m not too upset though,after some time to get over it. Looking towards Leeds now.
Xiaochen回复楼上:Aw no I hate ENGAA... I'm a queen's engineering reapplicant... Waiting to be rejected on Monday
Tfisher:The ENGAA feels ridiculously hard lol. Then again it’s supposed to be
Xiaochen:Yeah I got rejected pre interview last year because of ENGAA
看了半天没有王后学院的拒信,好吧,几周前我申请的工程专业被它拒了。如果非得找原因,那一定是入学考试,因为我的其他材料都很棒。我的预估成绩是数学A,物理A,高等数学A,计算机科学A,PS也很好。在ENGAA考试时,我想把题全部答完,所以很慌忙,结果搞砸了….不过,现在我不那么难过了,期待着利兹吧。
噢,no我恨ENGAA….我已经第二次申请王后学院的工程专业了…等着在周一收拒信
ENGAA简直是不可理喻地难!hhhh不过也是应该的
恩,去年我就是因为ENGAA被拒了….
Sufferinstudent:the ENGAA was too hard this year, I thought I was the only one that completely fell apart under that time pressure!!
Bloody ridiculous, they gaveus some long ass questions that take a minute to read and completing a question took like 5 mins.
I crumbled like a mf in that exam especially for section 1but section 2 was a lot better imo as the questions were spaced over a longer period, I didn't expect section 2 to change so much
今年的ENGAA太难了,时间根本不够用,我还以为只有我一个人会崩溃!!简直太荒谬了,光是题目就长到要花一分钟才能读完,答完题目得5分钟。
考试的过程中我都想暴走了,尤其是在section1。Section2问题间隔大了,感觉还好一些,有点意外。
Esrever回复楼上:I've heard most people say that section 2 went better for them. Section 2 went horriblly for me .
I only attempted 6 problems and probably got like 3 correct. By looking at the rejections here, I am surprised that I even got an interview.
我也听说很多人觉得section2好多了,但是我还是觉得很糟糕。我只回答了6个问题,可能只有3个对了。看到你们被拒的经历,我觉得自己得到面试机会是个奇迹。
拿到拒信/offer的你,最开始是怎样的心情呢?
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