访谈
国务卿迈克尔· R·蓬佩奥接受福斯财经网「与玛莉亚共度早晨」(Mornings with Maria)的玛丽亚·巴蒂罗姆(Maria Bartiromo )访问
纽约州，纽约市
2019年2月21日
问: 最后，让我回头问亚洲的问题，因为下周是与北朝鲜的峰会。... 总统本周的一些评论，让我感到吃惊。他说，听着，最近有些事，我不着急，峰会将会像上回一样，我们会有一些进展。他在降低人们的期待吗？
蓬佩奥国务卿:不，我一点也不觉得他是在降低人们的期待。你得记得我们在这之前的状况。之前有导弹测试、有核武器测试。至今已经超过一年都没有那两种系统的测试了。美国人的遗骸已经返还。我的团队现在正在河内，两周前在平壤。我们正在取得实际的进展。而现在两位领导—天啊，大约一周以后，27日和28日—就即将在河内见面，我希望我们可以取得实际进展，希望金委员长将会开始履行他去年六月在新加坡做的承诺，展开他自己国家的去核化。
问: 我是指，什么才是进展呢?我是指，你不期望他会立即就开始去核化，对吧?因为我们除了知道已经没有任何导弹，我们知道总统已经向前推进，你已经向前推进，但是没有任何去核化的宣布。
蓬佩奥国务卿: 玛丽亚，我记得1989年我是一名年轻的军人，在东德边境巡逻。当时没人预期到围墙会在它倒下的那天倒下。我希望世界也会在这里有这么一天，没人预期北朝鲜会采取这个行动。我们目前已经做的工作，已实施的经济制裁，总统带领的谈判，我希望有一天我们醒过来，世界上会有像1989年那样的一刻。
问:最后一个问题，关于中国。这一切和针对中国的讨论有什么关系?
蓬佩奥国务卿: 我们希望中国会继续扮演具有建设性的角色。他们到目前是很有帮助的，我们也十分赞赏。整个世界都一道向北朝鲜施压。我们希望中国会继续这么做，作为一个非常具有建设性的力量，贡献于对美国人民和世界人民都极好的一件事。
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesperson
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For Immediate Release
INTERVIEW
Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo
With Maria Bartiromo of Mornings with Maria on Fox Business Network
New York, New York
February 21, 2019
QUESTION: Joining me right now is the Secretary of State of the United States, Mike Pompeo. Mr. Secretary, it’s great to have you on the program.
SECRETARY POMPEO: Maria, it’s great to be with you.
QUESTION: Thank you so much for joining us. Can you give us any info in terms of where we are with China on this so-called memorandum of understanding that’s being drafted?
SECRETARY POMPEO: Yeah, so progress made last week when the teams were negotiating in China. They’re now in Washington continuing to work. I think real progress, as you said, not just on the trade issues, which matter – that is, the goods exchange – but on intellectual property protection, forced technology transfer, and importantly, enforcement around those. It’s one thing to write something on a piece of paper; it’s another thing to have enforcement mechanisms. And I know our trade team is hard at work making sure that the American people get that.
QUESTION: Let me go back to Asia as we conclude, because you’ve got the North Korea summit next week. … [S]ome of the comments that the President has made this week was – I was taken aback. He said look, a few things recently, I’m in no rush here, the summit will be like the last one, we’ll make some progress. Is he ratcheting down expectations?
SECRETARY POMPEO: No, I don’t think he’s ratcheting down expectations at all. You have to remember where we came into this. We came in when missiles were being tested, nuclear weapons were being tested. We haven’t had tests of either of those types of systems for well over a year now. We’ve had the return of remains of Americans. I have a team on the ground in Hanoi now. I had one in Pyongyang a couple weeks back. Real progress being made. And now the two leaders – goodness, a week or so from now, the 27th and 28th – will be together on the ground in Hanoi, and I hope we can make real progress, that Chairman Kim will begin to fulfill the commitment he made in June in Singapore of last year to denuclearize his own country.
QUESTION: I mean, what would be – what would be progress? I mean, you don’t expect that he’s going to denuclearize right away, right? Because aside from – we know that there haven’t been any missiles, we know that the President has moved the ball forward, you have moved the ball forward, but no denuclearization announcement.
SECRETARY POMPEO: Maria, I remember I was a young soldier patrolling the East German border in 1989. No one anticipated that the wall would come down on the day that it came down. I am hopeful that the world gets a day like that here as well, where no one expects that North Korea will take this action. I think the work that we’ve done, the economic sanctions that have been in place, the negotiations that President Trump has led – I hope one day we all wake up and we get a moment just like the one that the world had in 1989.
QUESTION: And final question on China. How does that fit into all of this with the talks on China?
SECRETARY POMPEO: We hope the Chinese will continue to play a constructive role. They have been helpful, and we appreciate that a great deal. The whole world has come together to put pressure on North Korea. We hope the Chinese will continue to do that and be a very constructive force for what would be a great thing for the people of America and the people of the world.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, thank you for joining us.
SECRETARY POMPEO: Maria, thank you so much, ma’am.
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