美国国务院

发言人办公室

华盛顿哥伦比亚特区（Washington, D.C.）

2018年8月3日

国务卿迈克·蓬佩奥（MichaelR. Pompeo）接受亚洲新闻台（Channel NewsAsia）Lin Xueling采访

丽思卡尔顿美年酒店（Ritz-CarltonMillenia Hotel）

新加坡新加坡市

问：在出现各种贸易战的情况下，美国是否对全世界陷入衰退状态做好了准备？

国务卿蓬佩奥：美国将一贯是亚洲，特别是东南亚的一个伟大的伙伴。很高兴再次来到新加坡。我与对口部门的官员全天举行了良好会谈，讨论美国为保证我们印度-太平洋（Indo-Pacific）地区实现自由、公平和开放做出的承诺。

至于贸易，这也是我们要求解决的问题。我们希望每一个国家都能崛起。我们希望各国都有机会发展贸易，购买美国产品，同时向美国出售产品。对于这些问题，总统（听不清）。我们是一个贸易极为自由的国家。特朗普总统（President Trump）大力支持贸易。

问：但是对于自由贸易来说，现在关税似乎是将会造成摩擦的因素。

国务卿蓬佩奥：我们希望的是撤销壁垒。这个问题已存在数十年之久。这个系统存在很大的不公平。我们本届政府只希望其中能够取得平衡。总统已经明确表示：零关税、零补贴、零非贸易壁垒。只要同意加入，我们就照此办理。美国正力图降低贸易系统的摩擦。我们一旦做到这一点，相信新加坡这样的国家和其他地区必将繁荣昌盛，美国也不例外。

问：对于这些关税（听不清）的回旋是否有一个时间表？是否会有某种界限，你们会说，不必了，就这样，现在走得太远了？

国务卿蓬佩奥：是的，我们希望与我们交往的每一个国家都能修补自身的系统，实现公平、对等、遵守法治——这些都是美国希望看到的结果。我们希望尽快实现，不要等太久。

问：“尽快”的意思是？

国务卿蓬佩奥：我们希望早在十年前就实现了。但是坦白地说，上一届政府和美国都没有为保证美国受到公平待遇做好准备。这就是总统希望看到的结果。他仅希望贸易开放、自由而已。我们要求印度-太平洋地区做到这一点。我们要求新加坡，要求东南亚做到这一点。这一点已势在必行。我们相信，一旦做到这一点，全球经济就会增长，东南亚经济就会增长，同时美国经济也会增长。

问：自特朗普-金正恩在新加坡举行首脑会晤至今已快两个月了。我们是否离北韩去核化更近一些了？

国务卿蓬佩奥：那是当然的。我们当然离得更近了。两位首脑来到这里，相互做出了历史性的承诺。金正恩委员长承诺去核化。这符合联合国安理会（UN SecurityCouncil）一贯的要求。有两项决议要求北韩做到这一点。美国也相应做出了承诺。我们表示，我们准备改善两国关系，为北韩提供更光明的未来。我们仍然坚持这项承诺。上星期北韩履行承诺，开始归还美军人员的遗骸，我们感到很高兴。我们希望这个进程继续进行。我们相信，金委员长会坚守去核化的承诺。全世界都寄希望于此。

问：但是你也说过，必须要各个国家继续保持对北韩的制裁。如果已经取得了这么大进展，为什么不放松制裁？

国务卿蓬佩奥：因为我们必须把制裁保持到完成之日。因此，无论我们在这个过程中取得多大进展——顺便说一下，这些不是美国的制裁——必须让世界知道这点——这些是国际制裁。每一个国家都支持了联合国安理会的决议，那些制裁将一直保持到我们完全实现北韩去核化。因此，无论我们取得多大进展，那些制裁都将继续保持。

但是，到那一天，到我们实现了全世界都在要求的那一天——我们欢迎那一天——北韩人民就将有更光明的前景。

问：那么你们完全没有所谓胡萝卜制，也就是某种循序渐进的方式，随着北韩开始去核，你们会放松某些制裁？

国务卿蓬佩奥：联合国安理会决议非常明确。在这个过程中肯定会出现一些动向。我们已经举行了会晤。我们在交往，这将增进我们两国间的信任。这些都符合情理。但是就制裁而言，联合国已经表态；世界已经表态。

问：时间举足轻重。所有人已经——是的，你说得对，所有人都在注视着，但是我们都想知道：这将出现在什么时候？你认为北韩去核化将出现在什么时候？因为没有期限会让所有人非常紧张。

国务卿蓬佩奥：世界应该不像两位领导人举行首脑会晤前那样紧张，在那之前我们的处境很不一样，时常有导弹发射，核试验。自从6月12日以来，那些都没有发生过。我们对此感到高兴。去核化的最终时间表将由金主席确定，至少在部分程度上。这个决定由他来作。他作出了承诺，我们非常希望在未来数周和数个月内我们能朝那个目标取得实质进展，让北韩人民很快走上通往更光明未来的道路。

与会者：谢谢。

问：谢谢你，蓬佩奥先生。

国务卿蓬佩奥：非常感谢你，林。很高兴见到你。

Interview

Michael R. Pompeo

Ritz-Carlton Millenia Hotel

Singapore, Singapore

August 3, 2018

QUESTION: Is America prepared to push the world into a recession because of these trade wars?

SECRETARY POMPEO: America is always going to be a great partner for Asia, Southeast Asia in particular. It’s great to be back here in Singapore; I’ve had fantastic meetings all day with my counterparts, talking about America’s commitment to making sure that we had a free, fair, open Indo-Pacific.

With respect to trade, that’s what we’re looking for too. We want every country to rise. We want each nation to have the opportunity to trade, to buy American goods, to sell goods into America. These are the things that President (inaudible). We are a radically free-trade country, and President Trump is enormously supportive of that.

QUESTION: But the tariffs seem to be things that are going to put frictions now on that free trade.

SECRETARY POMPEO: What we’re looking for is to remove barriers. This is what has – put in place over decades. There was tremendous unfairness in the system, and our administration is simply trying to put that balance there. The President has said clearly: zero tariffs, zero subsidies, zero non-tariff barriers. Sign us up, we’ll take it. America is trying to reduce friction in the trading system. And when we do, we’re confident that countries like here in Singapore and other places will thrive, as will America.

QUESTION: Is there a timeline, then, for these trade tariffs to be (inaudible) rolled back on? Is there any kind of limit where you’ll say, no, okay, it’s now gone too far?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Well, we’re looking for each country with whom we’re engaging in to fix their own systems in a way that they’re fair, reciprocal, they respect the rule of law – these are the things America’s looking for. We hope it’ll happen sooner rather than later.

QUESTION: And sooner means a time?

SECRETARY POMPEO: We wish it had happened a decade ago. But frankly, the previous administration and the United States wasn’t prepared to make sure that America was treated fairly. And that’s what the President’s looking for. He’s simply looking for open, free trade. We want that with the Indo-Pacific, we want it with Singapore, with Southeast Asia. It’s an imperative. We are confident that when that happens, the global economy will grow, Southeast Asia’s economy will grow, and America will grow as well.

QUESTION: It’s been close on two months since the Trump-Kim summit here in Singapore. Are we closer to a denuclearization of North Korea?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Oh, of course we are. Of course we’re closer. The two presidents came here and made a historic commitment to each other. Chairman Kim Jong-un made the commitment to denuclearize. That’s consistent with what the UN Security Council has been demanding. There are two resolutions that require North Korea to do just that. America, in return, made commitments. We said we are prepared to improve the relationship between our two countries and offer a brighter future for North Korea. We’re still intent upon that. We’re thrilled that North Korea fulfilled its commitment by beginning the process of returning the remains of American servicemen this past week. We hope that process will continue. And we’re confident that Chairman Kim remains committed to denuclearization. The world is counting on it.

QUESTION: But you’ve also said that it’s been imperative that the various countries still maintain the sanctions on North Korea. If so much progress has been made, why not then scale back on the sanctions?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Oh, because the sanctions must remain in place until we’re done. So no matter how much progress we make along the way – by the way, these aren’t American sanctions – it’s important for the world to know this – these are the world’s sanctions. Every country supported the UN Security Council resolutions, and those sanctions will remain in place until we have full denuclearization in North Korea. So no matter how much progress we make, those sanctions will remain in place.

But that day, that day when we achieve this thing that the whole world is demanding – we welcome that day – a brighter future for the people of North Korea will be at hand.

QUESTION: So you have got nothing to do with sort of a carrot system in which it’s going to be sort of accretionally; you’ll have some sanctions which will scale back as North Korea begins to denuclearize?

SECRETARY POMPEO: The UN Security Council resolutions are very clear. There will surely be things along the way that take place. We’ve already had meetings. We are engaged in things which will improve the trust between our two countries. Those all make sense. But with respect to sanctions, the UN has spoken; the world has spoken.

QUESTION: Time scales. Everybody has – yes, you’re right, everybody’s watching this, but we all want to know: When will this take place? When do you see denuclearization of North Korea taking place? Because having it open-ended just makes everybody incredibly nervous.

SECRETARY POMPEO: Well, the world should be less nervous than they were before the summit between the two leaders, where we were in a very difficult place with frequent missile launches, nuclear testing taking place. None of that has taken place since June 12th. We’re happy about that. The ultimate timeline for denuclearization will be set by Chairman Kim, at least in part. The decision is his. He made a commitment and we’re very hopeful that over the coming weeks and months we can make substantial progress towards that and put the North Korean people on a trajectory towards a brighter future very quickly.

PARTICIPANT: Thank you.

QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. Pompeo.

SECRETARY POMPEO: Thank you very much, Lin. It was great to be with you.